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	<title>Comments on: The Land of the Dead in Ursula K. Le Guin&#8217;s Earthsea
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		<title>By: Laura Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://journeytothesea.com/leguin-earthsea-underworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi George, thank you for your comments! You are so right about LeGuin&#039;s vision of Earthsea changing dramatically as she returned to it in later years (even magic itself is viewed very differently in Tehanu, where we get to see Ged in such a different way than before) - which makes sense, of course; there is no reason why world views should be monolithic in fictive  worlds, any more so than in the real world in which we live. I&#039;m going to be writing something about Pullman next time, and I&#039;m really looking forward to sorting through his vision of death; it is one of the most powerful elements of the trilogy, I think. Meanwhile, I don&#039;t know if you have read LeGuin&#039;s recent novel Lavinia, but it has some really mind-bending speculation about the meaning of life and death and the status of fictional characters (mythical characters) in relationship to the people who tell stories about them, their &quot;authors&quot; - great stuff. There&#039;s a review online here at Salon.com:
http://www.salon.com/books/review/2008/05/01/LeGuin/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi George, thank you for your comments! You are so right about LeGuin&#8217;s vision of Earthsea changing dramatically as she returned to it in later years (even magic itself is viewed very differently in Tehanu, where we get to see Ged in such a different way than before) &#8211; which makes sense, of course; there is no reason why world views should be monolithic in fictive  worlds, any more so than in the real world in which we live. I&#8217;m going to be writing something about Pullman next time, and I&#8217;m really looking forward to sorting through his vision of death; it is one of the most powerful elements of the trilogy, I think. Meanwhile, I don&#8217;t know if you have read LeGuin&#8217;s recent novel Lavinia, but it has some really mind-bending speculation about the meaning of life and death and the status of fictional characters (mythical characters) in relationship to the people who tell stories about them, their &#8220;authors&#8221; &#8211; great stuff. There&#8217;s a review online here at Salon.com:
<a href="http://www.salon.com/books/review/2008/05/01/LeGuin/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.salon.com/books/review/2008/05/01/LeGuin/?referer=');">http://www.salon.com/books/review/2008/05/01/LeGuin/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: George McBane</title>
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		<dc:creator>George McBane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[mild spoiler alert: plot elements from Le Guin&#039;s The Other Wind 
and Pullman&#039;s The Amber Spyglass are revealed in this post]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems to me that Le Guin&#039;s treatment of the dry land as
part of a &quot;natural balance&quot; changes substantially in 
The Other Wind, written decades after The Farthest Shore.
In fact, I thought Pullman&#039;s The Amber Spyglass echoed it 
strongly.  In both cases the land-of-the-dead as a dim dry
place where the dead mill about aimlessly becomes exposed
as an unnatural aberrance that needs (and receives) repair.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[mild spoiler alert: plot elements from Le Guin's The Other Wind 
and Pullman's The Amber Spyglass are revealed in this post]</p>

<p>It seems to me that Le Guin&#8217;s treatment of the dry land as
part of a &#8220;natural balance&#8221; changes substantially in 
The Other Wind, written decades after The Farthest Shore.
In fact, I thought Pullman&#8217;s The Amber Spyglass echoed it 
strongly.  In both cases the land-of-the-dead as a dim dry
place where the dead mill about aimlessly becomes exposed
as an unnatural aberrance that needs (and receives) repair.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laura Gibbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 05:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the book suggestion, Leanne - that is not a book I have read, and the information I found by Googling the title and authors makes it sound really fascinating. I will definitely track down a copy and read it. Thanks so much!  :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the book suggestion, Leanne &#8211; that is not a book I have read, and the information I found by Googling the title and authors makes it sound really fascinating. I will definitely track down a copy and read it. Thanks so much!  :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Leanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting topic this month!  I&#039;ve just read three of the Earthsea books for the first time recently, and really enjoyed them.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I couldn&#039;t help but think of one of the most memorable literary &quot;land of the dead&quot; that I&#039;ve read, and that is in &lt;em&gt;All Hallow&#039;s Eve&lt;/em&gt; by Charles Williams.  I found the opening chapter of that book especially to be a powerful and interesting depiction of a kind of in-between world of living and dying.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just wondered if you&#039;ve read this...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this article.  I&#039;m enjoying these monthly posts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topic this month!  I&#8217;ve just read three of the Earthsea books for the first time recently, and really enjoyed them.  </p>

<p>I couldn&#8217;t help but think of one of the most memorable literary &#8220;land of the dead&#8221; that I&#8217;ve read, and that is in <em>All Hallow&#8217;s Eve</em> by Charles Williams.  I found the opening chapter of that book especially to be a powerful and interesting depiction of a kind of in-between world of living and dying.  </p>

<p>Just wondered if you&#8217;ve read this&#8230;</p>

<p>Thanks for this article.  I&#8217;m enjoying these monthly posts.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Laura Gibbs</title>
		<link>http://journeytothesea.com/leguin-earthsea-underworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1098</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Gibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments, Jason! Tombs of Atuan is actually my personal favorite of all of her books - and of course there are the hints of those terrifying &quot;old gods&quot; throughout the Earthsea books. Haunting is definitely the word: I&#039;m amazed at how LeGuin is able to convey and suggest so much in books that are really quite short - yet every time I re-read them, I discover new things. She&#039;s quite a hero of mine! Have  you read her science fiction novel, The Lathe of Heaven? A genius book: I re-read that one again recently as well, and found it as amazing as ever.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not quite sure what is going to come of this little series of articles here at Journey  to the Sea looking at the land of the dead - I am a big  fan of LeGuin, and also of the beautiful metaphors that Pullman develops in his depiction of  our deaths in The Subtle Knife (that&#039;s what I&#039;ll be doing for the next issue)... I&#039;m hoping somehow to use these thoughts about LeGuin and Pullman (both of whom I like very very much)  to set up just  why I have found Rowling&#039;s books to be so disappointing by comparison. Anyway, we&#039;ll see how that all turns out. It&#039;s an excuse for me to read LeGuin and Pullman again, which is such a pleasure, and it&#039;s meant to coincide with Rowling&#039;s Deathly Hallows finally coming out in paperback this month. That&#039;s a sure sign of my undevotional attitude towards Harry Potter - I&#039;ve waited for the paperback edition before reading the final volume... :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Jason! Tombs of Atuan is actually my personal favorite of all of her books &#8211; and of course there are the hints of those terrifying &#8220;old gods&#8221; throughout the Earthsea books. Haunting is definitely the word: I&#8217;m amazed at how LeGuin is able to convey and suggest so much in books that are really quite short &#8211; yet every time I re-read them, I discover new things. She&#8217;s quite a hero of mine! Have  you read her science fiction novel, The Lathe of Heaven? A genius book: I re-read that one again recently as well, and found it as amazing as ever.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what is going to come of this little series of articles here at Journey  to the Sea looking at the land of the dead &#8211; I am a big  fan of LeGuin, and also of the beautiful metaphors that Pullman develops in his depiction of  our deaths in The Subtle Knife (that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll be doing for the next issue)&#8230; I&#8217;m hoping somehow to use these thoughts about LeGuin and Pullman (both of whom I like very very much)  to set up just  why I have found Rowling&#8217;s books to be so disappointing by comparison. Anyway, we&#8217;ll see how that all turns out. It&#8217;s an excuse for me to read LeGuin and Pullman again, which is such a pleasure, and it&#8217;s meant to coincide with Rowling&#8217;s Deathly Hallows finally coming out in paperback this month. That&#8217;s a sure sign of my undevotional attitude towards Harry Potter &#8211; I&#8217;ve waited for the paperback edition before reading the final volume&#8230; :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great introduction to Earthsea. Do you plan to delve any further into Le Guin&#039;s conception of the land of the dead? As I&#039;m sure you know, she returns there in &lt;i&gt;The Other Wind&lt;/i&gt; (2001). In some ways, though perhaps more metaphorically, the second Earthsea book, &lt;i&gt;The Tombs of Atuan&lt;/i&gt;, also involves a jouney to the underworld. Here, however, it is the relgion / mythology of the Kargad lands, not the Hardic islands, that Le Guin explores. There is also &quot;The Word of Unbinding&quot; (1964), a short story collected in &lt;i&gt;The Wind&#039;s Twelve Quarters&lt;/i&gt;, which predates and in some ways anticipates &lt;i&gt;The Farthest Shore&lt;/i&gt;. I&#039;ve always found her image of the underworld remarkably vivid (irony intended) and &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; haunting.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great introduction to Earthsea. Do you plan to delve any further into Le Guin&#8217;s conception of the land of the dead? As I&#8217;m sure you know, she returns there in <i>The Other Wind</i> (2001). In some ways, though perhaps more metaphorically, the second Earthsea book, <i>The Tombs of Atuan</i>, also involves a jouney to the underworld. Here, however, it is the relgion / mythology of the Kargad lands, not the Hardic islands, that Le Guin explores. There is also &#8220;The Word of Unbinding&#8221; (1964), a short story collected in <i>The Wind&#8217;s Twelve Quarters</i>, which predates and in some ways anticipates <i>The Farthest Shore</i>. I&#8217;ve always found her image of the underworld remarkably vivid (irony intended) and <i>very</i> haunting.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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