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		<title>Native America &amp; Speculative Fiction: Interview with Amy H. Sturgis
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy spoke with author, speaker, and professor Amy H. Sturgis about Native America, fantasy, and her recent book discussing their intersection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy H. Sturgis is an author, speaker, and professor at Belmont University. She specializes in fantasy and science fiction and in Native American studies. In addition to her numerous book chapters, articles, and conference presentations, Amy has written four books on U.S. history and Native American studies (including <a onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.greenwood.com/catalog/GR4177.aspx?referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.greenwood.com/catalog/GR4177.aspx?referer=http://journeytothesea.com/issue/10/');" href="http://www.greenwood.com/catalog/GR4177.aspx"><em>Tecumseh: A Biography</em></a>) and edited three works on science fiction and fantasy (including a collection of essays on C.S. Lewis titled <a onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mythsoc.org/press/past.watchful.dragons/?referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mythsoc.org/press/past.watchful.dragons/?referer=http://journeytothesea.com/issue/10/');" href="http://www.mythsoc.org/press/past.watchful.dragons/"><em>Past Watchful Dragons</em></a>). Her most recent book actually spans both categories: <a href="http://www.mythsoc.org/press/fantasy.native.america/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mythsoc.org/press/fantasy.native.america/?referer=');"><em>The Intersection of Native America and Fantasy</em></a>.</p>
<p style="font-size: 110%;">[<em>Editor's Note</em>: The first part of this interview appeared in a previous issue as <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/science-fiction-primer/">A Science Fiction Primer</a>. The conversation below is a continuation of that interview.]</p>
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<p><strong>Randy Hoyt:</strong> What first got you involved in Native American studies?</p>
<p><strong>Amy H. Sturgis:</strong> The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma is part of my family heritage on both sides, and my parents made sure that I was educated with that cultural awareness. I grew up in Tulsa and Broken   Arrow, Oklahoma, and so from my earliest memories onward, I felt the influence of &#8220;Indian Country.&#8221; When I was at Vanderbilt University working on my Ph. D. in history (with an emphasis in intellectual history), I was particularly interested in constitutional studies. Most of the work in Native American studies at the time was related to social and cultural topics, not intellectual and constitutional ones. I ended up writing an in-depth analysis of the evolution of Cherokee constitutional thought for my dissertation. I found that taking these two disciplines (constitutional studies and intellectual history) and applying their analytical tools to the subject matter of Native American studies yielded some fruitful and fascinating results.</p>
<p>Of course, this put my work a bit outside of the mainstream work done by scholars in Native American studies and in constitutional studies: neither group seemed much interested in the work of the other, and I thought both had missed out on some valuable insights. That was the beginning step for me in bringing he Native American heritage that had always been a part of my personal life forward into my professional life in a conscious and intentional way. I ended up passing the foreign language competency exam for my Ph.D. not in French (which I&#8217;d studied in high school) or Russian (which I&#8217;d studied in college), but in Cherokee. I have since gone on to write investigative pieces and current policy work about Native America, as well, so my focus is no longer simply historical.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> The two books you have published in Native American studies both related to events from the first half of the nineteenth century, a biography of Tecumseh (who died in 1813) and a book on the forced removal of the Cherokee Nation from Georgia (the &#8220;Trail of Tears&#8221; in 1838-1839). I noticed that these dates correspond roughly to the beginning of modern science fiction we discussed <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/science-fiction-primer/">previously</a>. Is there any relationship or connection between these events?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> Needless to say, this is an era that draws my attention and enthusiasm for many reasons. The connections between the two areas are interesting to consider. Tecumseh is a figure I find to be remarkable. He was the Shawnee leader responsible for the largest pan-tribal confederacy in the history of Native America, and he was one of the visionaries most responsible for challenging the peoples of the different Native nations to start thinking of themselves as American Indian instead of solely Osage or Potawatomi or Creek. Even before he was tragically killed in the War of 1812, he had become a figure of mythic proportions. He was described as a kind of King Arthur figure among his people, and their British allies drew on some very rich mythological language to describe him to their compatriots across the ocean. A number of Native American writers in the late twentieth century wrote alternate histories about what would have happened if Tecumseh had survived: it is interesting to see political scholars such as Vine Deloria writing essentially what is science fiction to talk about this great leader who was legendary even in his own age.</p>
<p>In Mary Shelley&#8217;s <em>Frankenstein</em> (1818), perhaps the leading contender for being the first modern work of science fiction, Frankenstein&#8217;s creature is out in the wild, living on his own and educating himself by eavesdropping on a family living out in the woods. When he hears about the plight of the American Indians, Shelley emphasizes that Frankenstein&#8217;s shunned, isolated, and mistreated creature &#8212; surely miserable in his own right &#8212; weeps for them. So even at the very beginning of the genre, science-fiction authors commented on the state of Native America. Throughout the nineteenth century, starting with the Indian Removal Act and the Trail of Trails, one Native American nation after another was displaced from their original lands. By the time of H.G. Wells&#8217;s work and the beginning of what would become a golden era in science fiction early in the twentieth century, there&#8217;s a period of tremendous upheaval as the Native American nations were managed &#8212; or, more to the point, manhandled &#8212; by the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the United States Government.</p>
<p>As science fiction was coming into its own, Native America was being dismantled in a systematic, military fashion. Ray Bradbury&#8217;s <em>Martian Chronicles</em> (1950) reflects on those events, using Mars as a metaphor for North  America. Some of the characters in the novel consciously identify what happened to the Martians with the de-population of Native America, and these characters begin to understand what is being lost only after it is too late for anything to be done. This has been an ongoing theme throughout science fiction, and a number of works engage it. One of my favorite contemporary science-fiction novels, Mary Doria Russell&#8217;s <em>The Sparrow</em> (1996), also discusses these events using the metaphor of interspecies contact with life on another planet. It is a remarkable consideration of who is to blame when everything goes wrong and tragedy unfolds &#8212; as it did following the Columbian encounter with Native America.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> Do we have any evidence of how Native American myths and legends adapted or changed during this time?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> It varies depending on the nation and the stories, but to a degree we can chart some differences and note how evolutions and adaptations unfolded in the act storytelling, especially across Native nations. There are surviving oral traditions that explain, for example, the genesis of the Great Law of Peace (which is essentially the Constitution of the Iroquois Confederacy), which pre-dated contact with Europeans by quite a good margin; we can see how the origin stories explaining this remarkable compact evolved over time. New stories were told as a result of these events: new legends, for example, arose in the Cherokee Nation during the Trail of Tears. We can date the beginning of these stories and then see how they now permeate Native American literature. It is also interesting to observe how the stories and legends of these two drastically different cultures, Native American and European, in a sense cross-fertilized each other. Some of the Southwestern nations, for example, have Catholic symbolism informing their mythology after contact with the Spanish. Most of the stories were transmitted orally throughout this time period, but in the nations that adopted written languages, we even have a literary snapshot of stories, capturing them at the moment when they were first recorded, and we can track how they have changed &#8212; and how they have stayed the same &#8212; over the years.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> The Mythopoeic Press announced <em>The Intersection of Fantasy and Native America: From H.P. Lovecraft to Leslie Marmon Silko</em>, a book you co-edited with David Oberhelman from Oklahoma  State University. What kind of material will readers find in that book?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> I presented a paper in August 2006 as the scholar guest of honor at Mythcon 37 in Norman, Oklahoma. In that talk, I noted that taking the analytical tools from two disciplines (this time fantasy studies and Native American studies) could yield great results when each was applied to the other&#8217;s subject matter. Both sides I think are missing out on great opportunities to talk about and share the remarkable &#8212; and remarkably similar &#8212; literature in their respective fields. In my talk I recommended ways of bringing together those who love fantasy and those who love Native America. The Mythopoeic Press approached me about editing a volume on that topic, using my keynote speech as the first chapter, and the challenge I laid out in it as its guiding theme. We cast a wide net, finding an exciting international group of cross-disciplinary and multi-ethnic scholars to talk about three things:</p>
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<li>Native American mythology in literature,</li>
<li>Native American authors writing works with fantasy elements, or</li>
<li>non-Native fantasy authors incorporating Native America into their own work.</li>
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<p>The final product includes some fascinating contributions from a wide range of able and accessible scholars on authors from H.P. Lovecraft, J.R.R. Tolkien, and J.K. Rowling to Leslie Marmon Silko, Louise Erdrich, and Gerald Vizenor, among others. I think it is a tremendous volume that shows how much scholars and readers in two different traditions can gain from expanding their horizons and bringing all of this rich material into one conversation.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> Let me ask about these points, starting with the last one. Many readers will be familiar with the use of other mythological material in works of fantasy. (Jason explored in a previous article, for example, material from Norse, Old English, and Welsh mythological traditions in Alan Garner&#8217;s <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/weirdstone-of-brisingamen/"><em>The Weirdstone of Brisingamen</em></a>.) What fantasy authors have done this same thing with Native American material?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> Not enough have done this, but some have done it well. There&#8217;s Orson Scott Card; you have published a <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/topic/os-card/">series of articles about his Alvin Maker series</a>, in fact. His books take the reader on a journey through an alternate America &#8212; and what a place it is to visit with his kind of introspection! I think Card had real insight about how Tecumseh and his movement represented a kind of American myth that had reached legendary proportions in Tecumseh&#8217;s own lifetime.</p>
<p>Perhaps my favorite novel along these lines is Neil Gaiman&#8217;s <em>American Gods</em>: I think Gaiman did an elegant job of drawing on Native American mythology. Others like Charles de Lint and Michael Bishop also come to mind. One of my favorite authors of speculative fiction, H.P. Lovecraft, actually draws quite a bit on Native American mythology and settings. His short story &#8220;The Mound&#8221; (published posthumously in 1940) takes place at a real burial mound in Binger, Oklahoma, and a handful of his other stories draw on the richness of the Native American legends. His works are surprisingly well-researched for the amount of information that was available in the early twentieth century.</p>
<p>Many non-Native authors who have drawn on this material have done a spectacular job. Some others, of course, have failed to do justice to their subject matter.  But I think the number of authors who incorporate Native America into their fantasies is still too small. Many non-Native authors are simply not aware enough or comfortable enough with Native American mythology &#8212; or contemporary Native American ideas &#8212; to attempt it yet. Not only could these authors create great works in their own right using this material, but through them many more readers could be introduced to these great tales.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> What do you think it takes for non-Native authors to become aware enough and comfortable enough with the legends to be able to incorporate them into their fiction?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> Tolkien&#8217;s use of other mythological traditions provides a good example: when he found himself interested in the stories from <em>The Kalevala</em>, he went and taught himself Finnish so he could read it in the original language. He did his homework before he incorporated other people&#8217;s myths into his own stories. If authors want to use Native American stories, I think they ought to research these tales to gain an understanding of their history, of their particular origins and context. This does not necessarily mean learning a Native American language (although that is an excellent place to start); there are fantastic oral history collections available for listening, and there are fantastic anthologies and collections of these stories available. It is not asking much for people today do the research to find accounts as close to the original as possible.</p>
<p>Moreover, Native America is alive and well today, and many of the contemporary settings and stories of modern American Indians provide rich sources for writers, regardless of their own ethnic backgrounds.</p>
<p>There is a great debate about who has the <em>right</em> to draw on Native American traditional material, about who is <em>authentic</em> and what is <em>credible</em>. These questions for the most part disturb me. We do see mythology incorporated into fiction badly and disrespectfully, but I do not believe the solution is to prevent non-Native authors from accessing and being inspired by this material. The authors who use Native American traditions without doing even the most basic research, drawing instead on inaccurate stereotypes, have failed as artists, I would say. It seems to work out that the non-Native authors who are sensitive, inquisitive, and respectful of these stories and traditions also end up creating beautiful and lasting art.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> You mentioned that the book also contains material on Native American authors incorporating their own mythological traditions into their fantasy stories.</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> Yes. Some of these Native authors produce works that are clearly fantasy by anyone&#8217;s definition: Drew Hayden Taylor and Daniel Heath Justice are two excellent (and recommended) examples. Others write books often considered to be &#8220;magical realism&#8221; or simply &#8220;Native American literature.&#8221; This again raises the discussion about how to classify works, which I <a title="Science Fiction Primer: Interview with Amy H. Sturgis | Journey to the Sea" href="http://journeytothesea.com/science-fiction-primer/">mentioned last time</a> regarding what counts as &#8220;science fiction&#8221;: these are games with which the critics and scholars are more concerned than the fans and the practitioners. My concern is that many readers who love fantasy literature never discover some of the great Native authors, because these writers&#8217; publications are labeled and pigeonholed due to the artists&#8217; ethnicity. It is my hope that our book will help to introduce fantasy lovers to great Native writers. Leslie Marmon Silko, Louise Erdrich, and Gerald Vizenor, for example, write works that incorporate elements of fantasy. (Gerald Vizenor, incidentally, also has written what I would consider a great work of Native American science fiction.) Some of these authors, such as Louise Erdrich, are gaining national and international reputations as &#8220;literary&#8221; authors: Silko&#8217;s works are taught in a number of universities and even high schools already, although usually in the context of Native American studies.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> After readers finish your book, what anthologies or sources would you recommend next for information about Native American myths and legends? Is there one particular book that provides a good overview of all the material available?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> There&#8217;s not one perfect text out there as a good starting point. There are actually a lot of good collections, but none have put themselves head and shoulders above the others. I think anything by Joseph Bruchac would be a good first stop; he compiles and re-tells Native American myths in his books in a really compelling way. Another good source is the anthropologist James Mooney, who has a series of books written around the beginning of the twentieth century. He was compiling folklore from firsthand accounts, essentially writing down the oral history while it was still there. Mooney&#8217;s collections provide a great ethnographic perspective; I would recommend his work from a historical point of view and Bruchac&#8217;s work from a literary one. I like Lawana Trout&#8217;s <em>Native American Literature: An Anthology</em> as an introduction to Native stories both traditional and contemporary.</p>
<p>Recently I was pleased to be brought in as a scholarly consultant on Virginia Schomp&#8217;s 2008 book <em>The Native Americans</em>, which is part of the Marshall Cavendish <em>Myths of the World</em> series for younger readers. Schomp identifies the origin and context of each of the tales she relates and includes stories from the width and breadth of North  America. Books such as this one give me hope that children of many backgrounds will be exposed to the delights and fascination of Native mythology; hopefully this first taste will lead to a lifelong appetite.</p>
<p><strong>RH:</strong> What are your overall aspirations for the book? What do you hope the book will accomplish?</p>
<p><strong>AHS:</strong> I hope that the book will help fantasy lovers to discover Native authors. I hope that it will help Native writers who write fantasy literature to be welcomed to the table of fantasy artists and studied by scholars of the genre. I also hope it will help non-Native American writers to feel invited to mine the wealth of Native American mythology to create new stories. But I suppose my main hope is that readers who love any of this material &#8212; whether it is Native American fiction or fantasy or mythology &#8212; will come away from the book with titles they want to read; I think it is a tragedy that works get pigeonholed in a certain genre or category in such a way that they do not reach readers who will appreciate them and benefit from their messages.</p>
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<p>I have included links to all the books Amy recommended during the interview below. You can learn more about Amy’s work by visiting her web site, <a onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amyhsturgis.com/?referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amyhsturgis.com/?referer=http://journeytothesea.com/native-america-speculative-fiction/');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mythus.com/?referer=http://journeytothesea.com/topic/jrr-tolkien/');" href="http://www.amyhsturgis.com/">amyhsturgis.com</a>. She is currently working on what sounds like an exciting new book, <em>The Gothic Imaginations of J.R.R. Tolkien, Madeleine L’Engle, and J.K. Rowling</em>, for publication with Zossima Press in 2010.</p>
<p style="font-size: 110%;">[<em>Editor's Note</em>: The first part of this interview appeared in a previous issue as <a href="../science-fiction-primer/">A Science Fiction Primer</a>. The conversation above is a continuation of that interview.]</p>
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<h3>Recommendations</h3>
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<li>Oberhelman, David and Amy H. Sturgis, eds. <a href="http://www.mythsoc.org/press/fantasy.native.america/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.mythsoc.org/press/fantasy.native.america/?referer=');"><em>The Intersection of Fantasy and Native America</em></a>. Mythopoeic Press, 2009.</li>
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<li>Search at Amazon: <a href="http://bit.ly/460mOA" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/bit.ly/460mOA?referer=');">Joseph Bruchac</a>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0152020624/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0152020624/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>Between Earth &amp; Sky: Legends of Native American Sacred Places</em></a>. 1999.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0698115848/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0698115848/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>Thirteen Moons on Turtle&#8217;s Back</em></a>. 1997.</li>
<li><a href="http://bit.ly/460mOA" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/bit.ly/460mOA?referer=');">View All »</a></li>
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<li>Author Page at Amazon: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/James-Mooney/e/B001HOHI2G/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/James-Mooney/e/B001HOHI2G/?referer=');">James Mooney</a>
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<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0486289079/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0486289079/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>Myths of the Cherokee</em></a>. 2009.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0554731231/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0554731231/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>The Siouan Tribes of the East</em></a>. 2008.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0803281773/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0803281773/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>The Ghost Dance Religion And The Sioux Outbreak Of 1890</em></a>. 2008.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/James-Mooney/e/B001HOHI2G/" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/James-Mooney/e/B001HOHI2G/?referer=');">View All »</a></li>
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<li>Schomp, Virginia. <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=ydaVC6Y2B9EC&amp;printsec=frontcover" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/books.google.com/books?id=ydaVC6Y2B9EC_amp_printsec=frontcover&amp;referer=');"><em>The Native Americans</em></a>. 2007.</li>
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<li>Shelley, Mary. <em><a onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0553212478/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0553212478/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=http://journeytothesea.com/?p=3429');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0553212478/?tag=randyhoyt-20"><em>Frankenstein, Or The Modern Prometheus</em></a></em>. 1818.</li>
<li>Bradbury, Ray. <a title="The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury | Amazon" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0380973839/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0380973839/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=http://journeytothesea.com/?p=3429');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0380973839/?tag=randyhoyt-20"><em>The Martian Chronicles</em></a>. 1950.</li>
<li>Russell, Mary Doria. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0449912558/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0449912558/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>The Sparrow</em></a>. 1996.</li>
<li>Card, Orson Scott. <a onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0812524268/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812524268/bestiarialati-20?referer=http://journeytothesea.com/topic/native-american/');" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0812524268/?tag=randyhoyt-20"><em>Red Prophet</em></a>. 1988.</li>
<li>Gaiman, Neil. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0380789035/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0380789035/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>American Gods</em></a>. 2001.</li>
<li>&#8220;The Mound.&#8221; 1940. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/product/0345485726/?tag=randyhoyt-20" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.amazon.com/dp/product/0345485726/?tag=randyhoyt-20&amp;referer=');"><em>The Horror in the Museum</em></a>. Arkham House Publishers, 1989.</li>
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		<title>The Lion&#8217;s Share in Roger L&#8217;Estrange
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 12:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Gibbs</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Issue 13]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laura concludes her series on Aesopic fables reflecting the well-known phrase the "lion's share" by looking at two versions of the fable by Roger L'Estrange with two different morals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;lion&#8217;s share&#8221; is probably the most famous of all the phrases and mottoes that come from Aesop&#8217;s fables. In previous articles, I&#8217;ve looked at examples of the story of the &#8220;lion&#8217;s share&#8221; from several different sources, and with this article, I want to close out the series by looking at the fable of the &#8220;lion&#8217;s share&#8221; as told by Sir Roger L&#8217;Estrange, a controverial pamphleteer and political figure 17th-century in England. Sir Roger L&#8217;Estrange demonstrates the pliability of the Aesopic tradition by telling the fable twice, and providing it with two different morals, at opposite ends of the spectrum of interpretation that we have seen so far.</p>
<p>First, however, let&#8217;s review that spectrum of interpretation. In the traditional Greek fable, which I discussed in the <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/rumi-lion/">first article in this series</a>, the lion is a dangerous and greedy character who takes everything, or almost everything, for himself. The moral is that someone who partners with a lion will end up empty-handed as a result. This anti-authoritarian message is turned upside-down by the Islamic poet Rumi, as I discussed in that <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/rumi-lion/">first article</a>. For Rumi, the lion is a symbol of God, whose awesome power demands total obedience. The &#8220;lion&#8217;s share&#8221; is not a symbol of injustice or exploitation, but is an allegory of the spiritual gulf dividing the Creator from his creation. The medieval Christian preacher Odo of Cheriton, whom I discussed in the <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/christianizing-aesop-odo/">second article in this series</a>, likewise interprets the &#8220;lion&#8217;s share&#8221; as an allegory of God&#8217;s divine justice and obedience to authority. This variety of interpretation is a key element in the fables&#8217; longevity, allowing storytellers in different ages and cultures to adapt the stories to their own worlds.</p>
<p>The question of divine and secular authority was central to the 17th-century world of Sir Roger L&#8217;Estrange. Born in 1616 during the reign of King James I, L&#8217;Estrange took the side of James&#8217;s son, King Charles I, in the English Civil War, defending the king&#8217;s divine right to rule. The young L&#8217;Estrange was sentenced to death in 1644 for his participation in a conspiracy in support of the king, although he was finally pardoned by Oliver Cromwell in 1653. In 1663, following the restoration of the monarchy with the reign of Charles II, L&#8217;Estrange became a journalist and eventually a member of Parliament. His massive collection of 500 Aesop&#8217;s fables, in which each fable is accompanied by a lengthy &#8220;reflection,&#8221; was published in 1692, near the close of L&#8217;Estrange&#8217;s long public career. The choice of subject matter is no surprise. Just as Aesop&#8217;s fables had played a part in the turbulent political discourse of ancient Greece and Rome, they were also a regular feature of early modern English politics (Annabel Patterson&#8217;s <em>Fables of Power: Aesopian Writing and Political History</em>). While some writers discovered populist morals in the fables, L&#8217;Estrange was an ardent monarchist, as Patterson explains:</p>
<blockquote><p>[L'Estrange] pinned [each fable] down securely with an authoritarian gloss, <span class="ellipsis">[&#0133;]</span> repeating over and overagain the same political doctrine: the subject&#8217;s duty of obedience, the fickleness of the mob, the dangers of giving the people the gost of a voice in the way they shall be governed. (141)</p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8220;subject&#8217;s duty of obedience&#8221; is indeed what we find in L&#8217;Estrange&#8217;s presentation of the fable of the lion&#8217;s share, where the lion embodies an absolute secular authority which must be obeyed at all costs:</p>
<blockquote><p>There was a Hunting-Match agreed upon betwixt a Lion, an Ass, and a Fox, and they were to go Equal Shares in the Booty. They ran down a Brave Stag, and the Ass was to Divide the Prey; which he did very Honestly and Innocently into Three Equal Parts, and left the Lion to take his Choice: Who never Minded the Divident; but in a Rage Worry&#8217;d the Ass, and then bad the Fox Divide; who had the Wit to make Only One Share of the Whole, saving a Miserable Pittance that he Reserv&#8217;d for Himself. The Lion highly approv&#8217;d of his Way of Distribution; but Prethee Reynard, says he, who thee to Carve? Why truly says the Fox, I had an Ass to my Master; and it was His Folly made me Wise.<br />
THE MORAL. There must be no Shares in Sovereignty.</p></blockquote>
<p>For L&#8217;Estrange, this lion is a symbol of the sovereign monarch, and there must be &#8220;no Shares in Sovereignty&#8221; &#8211; in other words, the exorbitant share of the lion king is exactly what the lion deserves.  Yet as L&#8217;Estrange himself admits in the reflection added to the moral, &#8220;This Fable is diffidently Moralliz&#8217;d Elsewhere.&#8221; This &#8220;elsewhere&#8221; includes L&#8217;Estrange&#8217;s own collection of fables, where he tells the story of the lion&#8217;s share a second time, and with a quite different slant. This other version does not endorse the absolute authority of the lion king, but  instead provides a cautionary moral, which warns you to beware of men more powerful than yourself:</p>
<blockquote><p>A Lion, an Ass, and some other of their Fellow-Foresters, went a hunting one day; and every one to go share and share-like in what they took. They pluck&#8217;d down a Stag, and cut him into so many Parts; but as they were entring upon the dividend, Hands off, says the Lion, This Part is mine by the Privilege of my Quality; this, because I&#8217;ll have it in spite of your teeth; this again, because I took most pains for&#8217;t; and if you dispute the fourth, we must e&#8217;en pluck a Crow about it. So the Confederates Mouths were all stopt, and they went away as mute as Fishes.<br />
THE MORAL. There&#8217;s no entring into Leagues or Partnerships with those that are either too powerful, or too crafty for us. He that has the Staff in his Hand will be his own Carver.</p></blockquote>
<p>In this version of the story, L&#8217;Estrange does not insist that authority should be obeyed, but instead that it should be avoided. Instead of interpreting the lion as an emblem of royal sovereignity, this time L&#8217;Estrange characterizes this lion as &#8220;too powerful&#8221; and &#8220;too crafty,&#8221; a &#8220;carver&#8221; rather than a king. Notice, too, that the plot is slightly different. Instead of the Greek version of the story which features the witty repartee of the lion and the fox, this version, derived from the Roman poet Phaedrus, keeps the lion&#8217;s companions in total silence. Confronted by the brute force of the lion&#8217;s power, the other animals can say nothing at all. It&#8217;s still a story of the &#8220;lion&#8217;s share,&#8221; but this time the lion&#8217;s share is a symbol of coercion and exploitation,  and no longer the divine right of kings.</p>
<p>Working with these different versions of the fables, L&#8217;Estrange embraced the task of moralizing the stories for his own political purposes, just as the politicians of ancient Greece and Rome had done in their time. Yet if you want to find L&#8217;Estrange&#8217;s wonderful book of fables in a bookstore today, you will have no luck in the History or Politics section. Instead, you must go to the Children&#8217;s section, which is where Aesop&#8217;s fables have been consigned in our own day and time. Enshrined in the Everyman&#8217;s Library of Children&#8217;s Classics published by Knopf, you will indeed find a modern edition of L&#8217;Estrange&#8217;s fables, beautifully illustrated, and with his explosive 17th-century prose intact.  It&#8217;s my favorite of all the English translations of Aesop&#8217;s fables, but surely not 21st-century children&#8217;s fare.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, keep your ears open for the next time you hear someone use the phrase &#8220;the lion&#8217;s share.&#8221; It&#8217;s still a very common English phrase, although most people no longer know the fable that it comes from. Consider the context in which the phrase is used, and ask yourself which side of the spectrum it has landed. Is &#8220;the lion&#8217;s share&#8221; being used to symbolize something natural and right, the large proportion necessarily due to someone who is the king of the beasts&#8230;? Or is it instead something unfair and exorbitant, the share that is wrongly taken by force&#8230;? You might even engage in a bit of fable revival, and tell your own version of the story about what happened when the lion went hunting in partnership with the other beasts.</p>
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<h3>Works Cited</h3>
<ul>
<li>Patterson, Annabel. <em>Fables of Power: Aesopian Writing and Political History</em>. 1991.</li>
<li>L&#8217;Estrange, Sir Roger. <em>Fables of Aesop, and Other Eminent Mythologists, with Morals and Reflexions</em>. 1692. (The full text of the 1738 edition of the book is available online at <a href="http://books.google.com/books?as_labels=aesop+lestrange&amp;uid=11474406259561102151" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/books.google.com/books?as_labels=aesop+lestrange_amp_uid=11474406259561102151&amp;referer=');">Google Books</a>.)</li>
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		<title>Photographic Tour of Arthurian Locations
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		<dc:creator>Alana Joli Abbott</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Issue 13]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Arthurian Legends]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Alana shares photographs from her recent trip to England on a tour called "Myth in Stone," discussing the various locations she visited associated with King Arthur.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first traveled in England as a student on a tour called &#8220;Myth in Stone.&#8221; One of our speakers made the statement that nearly everywhere in southwestern England, there’s some site related to King Arthur. You can hardly throw a stone without hitting something called “Arthur’s Chair” or “Arthur’s Table.” Some of these sites are from the right period to be connected to Riothamus, a warrior king who (like Arthur in the tales) invaded France in the late 400s: many consider Riothamus to be the most likely candidate for the historical person from whom the legends have derived. But many of these sites are standing stone structures that were around long before Riothamus appeared on the scene. This summer, back on the &#8220;Myth in Stone&#8221; tour as a teaching assistant, I visited many of those same Arthurian sites, relishing being in the same places a historical Arthur might have walked &#8212; and where the legendary Arthur still treads through local imaginations.</p>
<p style="font-size: 110%">[<em>Editor's Note</em>: All the photographs in this article were taken by the author while on the tour.]</p>
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<h3><strong>Stonehenge</strong></h3>
<p>Of all the famous monuments in England, the enormous stone ring on Salisbury Plain known as Stonehenge stands out in nearly everyone&#8217;s imagination.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="../wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-stonehenge1.jpg"><img title="Stonehenge" src="../wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-stonehenge1-225x300.jpg" alt="Stonehenge" width="225" height="300" /></a> <a href="../wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-stonehenge2.jpg"><img title="Stonehenge" src="../wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-stonehenge2-300x300.jpg" alt="Stonehenge" width="300" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>Stonehenge is still a mystery: while there are any number of books offering explanations, few of them agree. Many of these modern explanations associate the alignment of the stones with the rising and setting of the sun and moon, describing Stonehenge as a kind of solar and lunar calendar; John North, in his book  <em>Stonehenge</em>, suggests that the stones are also aligned with the rising and setting of different stars and constellations at different times of year. In early Arthurian tales, the blue stones of Salisbury were described as a stone circle transported from Wales and erected in their proper arrangement by Merlin.  The connection between Stonehenge and the stars may have played a part in connecting Merlin with the power of fate: in the Middle Ages, it was a common belief that the stars predicted or determined the fates of men.</p>
<p>Of course, Stonehenge has been around far too long for any historical Arthurian association. It is worth considering, though, why such an association exists in the tales. Did the stone circle bring to mind thoughts of a round table? Did the blue stones, which appear to have come from Wales, trigger associations with Merlin whose legendary birthplace was also in Wales? Landscapes shape stories told by the storytellers in particular regions, and the stones at Stonehenge loom incredibly large on the landscape. It is hard to imagine them <em>not</em> being incorporated into the stories &#8212; particularly in a culture more <a title="Mythos &amp; Logos: Two Ways of Explaining the World" href="http://journeytothesea.com/mythos-logos/"><em>mythos</em></a>-minded than our own. (It is interesting to note that in the 1800s, in a much more materialistic and <a title="Mythos &amp; Logos: Two Ways of Explaining the World" href="../mythos-logos/"><em> </em><em>logos</em></a>-minded culture, Stonehenge was known as  &#8220;that great eyesore on Salisbury Plain.&#8221;)</p>
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<h3>Tintagel Castle</h3>
<p>The stories say that Uther Pendragon united all of England under one crown; they also say that he was undone by his lust for Ygraine, the wife of the Duke of Cornwall. Ygraine was beautiful, and Uther desired her. Uther had Merlin disguise him as Ygraine’s husband so that he could lie with her. In Geoffrey of Monmouth&#8217;s account in <em>History of the Kings of Britain</em> (written in the twelfth century) Uther killed the duke, made Ygraine his queen, and the two ruled as equals. But their bliss did not last: England was again divided after Uther’s betrayal of Cornwall. In some stories, Uther promised to give the child of their union to Merlin. After the collapse of the kingdom, that child (Arthur) grew up without knowing his royal ancestry.</p>
<p>Tintagel Castle was a seat of power in Cornwall in the 1200s, when Richard Earl of Cornwall built the castle whose ruins still stand. This castle in Cornwall is the traditional birthplace of Arthur. The castle itself would have been difficult for Uther to besiege, with only a thin bridge of land connecting it to the rest of the mainland. In the legends, this made it necessary for Merlin to use magic in order for Uther to achieve his goal. But the connection between Arthur&#8217;s birth and Cornwall may be much older than Tintagel Castle. Tradition identifies Cornwall as a seat of power much earlier. Archeological evidence shows trade between Cornwall and the Mediterranean occurred in the fifth century, suggesting there was an important settlement there during the time of Riothamus.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3579" title="Tintagel" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel1-225x300.jpg" alt="Tintagel" width="225" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3580" title="Tintagel" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel2-300x300.jpg" alt="Tintagel" width="300" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel3.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3581" title="Tintagel" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel3-300x300.jpg" alt="Tintagel" width="300" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel4.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3582" title="Tintagel" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-tintagel4-225x300.jpg" alt="Tintagel" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
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<h3><strong>Merlin’s Cave</strong></h3>
<p>Below the great heights of Tintagel Castle is a system of caves. One of the caves, known as Merlin&#8217;s Cave, pierces through the land bridge.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-merlins-cave-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3584" title="Merlin's Cave" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-merlins-cave-1-300x300.jpg" alt="Merlin's Cave" width="300" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-merlins-cave-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3585" title="arthur-photo-merlins-cave-2" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-merlins-cave-2-225x300.jpg" alt="arthur-photo-merlins-cave-2" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
<p>More of a tunnel than a true cave, Merlin’s Cave is what modern psychologists or anthropologists might describe as a &#8220;liminal space,&#8221; a threshold place of in-between or transition. At high tide, the cave is unreachable by foot: water churns through it from both sides. According to locals, the rip tides below Tintagel make swimming in the area dangerous. At low tide, the water recedes, making the cave quite accessible to anyone who wishes to visit. The cave certainly has a numinous or magical feel about it.</p>
<p>There are no legends, as far as I know, that explain why the cave is named after Merlin. In the legends Merlin would have had a place to practice his magic at Camelot when Arthur was king, so it seems he would have had no reason to use this site. But even without any literary evidence, given Merlin&#8217;s association with both Arthur’s birth and with magic, it makes sense for such a place to be named in his honor. Did storytellers imagine he used the cave, with its connection to the tides and the moon, to enhance his magic? Or might they have speculated that the proximity to such a liminal space allowed his magic to form in the first place? Perhaps.</p>
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<p><strong> </strong></p>
<h3><strong>Arthur’s Rattle</strong></h3>
<p>This natural landscape formation near Tintagel once served, according to local folklore, as a plaything for the child Arthur.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-rattle.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3586" title="Arthur's Rattle" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-rattle-300x225.jpg" alt="Arthur's Rattle" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>How would a baby play with something as large as a rocky cliff, you ask? In some early stories, Arthur was actually born a giant. Only later did he shrink to normal size and became a normal child with a great destiny ahead of him. (Cornwall is actually full of tales of giants. Saint Michael’s Mount, just off of Penzance, is known as the home of the last giant in England: he was eventually killed by Jack the Giant Slayer. In many of the Arthurian stories, Arthur and his men fought off a number of giants in both England and France.)</p>
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<h3>St. Nectan&#8217;s Glen</h3>
<p>Near Tintagel is a beautiful glen that features a waterfall with a straight drop of forty feet. After its initial fall, it cascades through a natural hole in a rock wall before plunging another ten feet into a shallow pool.</p>
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<h3 style="text-align: center;"><strong><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-st-nectans-glen.jpg"><img title="St. Nectan's Glen" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-st-nectans-glen-225x300.jpg" alt="St. Nectan's Glen" width="225" height="300" /></a></strong></h3>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>St. Nectan is said to have settled here around 500 CE, but other stories say that Arthur knighted the members of his Round Table here, plunging them into the water at the falls and sending them through the hole and into the pool below. This was the sign of their rebirth &#8212; they were no longer men, but knights. It was from St. Nectan’s Glen that the knights were said to have received their blessing and left on their quest for the Holy Grail. St. Nectan’s Glen and Hermitage still serves as a destination for pilgrims today, in part because the waters there are reputed to have healing powers. They’re also said to be haunted, either by fairies or ghosts.</p>
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<h3>King Arthur’s Hall</h3>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>Though not a site of ancient history, King Arthur’s Hall is a place that honors Arthur and the chivalry found in the stories.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3596" title="Arthur's Hall" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-1-300x225.jpg" alt="Arthur's Hall" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3597" title="Arthur's Hall" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-2-225x300.jpg" alt="Arthur's Hall" width="225" height="300" /></a> <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-3.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-3598" title="Arthur's Hall" src="http://journeytothesea.com/wp-content/assets/arthur-photo-hall-3-225x300.jpg" alt="Arthur's Hall" width="225" height="300" /></a></p>
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<p>The Hall was built by businessman Frederick Thomas Glasscock in the early 1930s. He founded an organization called the Fellowship of the Knights of the Round Table of King Arthur, based on the symbolism and ideas in the Arthurian romances. The Hall itself was opened to the public in 1933. It gives visitors a journey from the darkness of Camelot at one end of the Great Hall, to the redemption of Camelot at the opposite end. There are seventy-two stained glass windows that show the story of the rise and fall of King Arthur. (Randy has discussed stained-glass windows connected to narratives in his previous article <a href="http://journeytothesea.com/myth-beyond-words/">Myth Beyond Words</a>.)</p>
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<p>From Cornwall, our group returned to Somerset. Some of the best Arthurian archaeology has been performed there since the 1970s, including the excavation of the hill fort Cadbury Castle (from which Riothamus may have once ruled) and the site of Arthur&#8217;s grave. I&#8217;ll talk about those in an upcoming issue!</p>
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<h3>Works Consulted</h3>
<ul>
<li>North, John. <a href="[IBSN:1416576460]"><em>Stonehenge</em></a>. New York: Free Press, 1997.</li>
<li>Monmouth, Geoffrey. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Regum_Britanniae" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historia_Regum_Britanniae?referer=');"><em>History of the Kings of Britain</em></a>. Circa 1136.</li>
<li>Ashe, Geoffrey. <a href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/21904063" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/www.worldcat.org/oclc/21904063?referer=');"><em>Mythology of the British Isles</em></a>. 1990.</li>
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