Comments on: Jesus’s Harrowing of Hell in the Christian Apocryphal Tradition http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/ an online magazine devoted to the study of myth Thu, 02 Sep 2010 07:23:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Randy Hoyt http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1158 Randy Hoyt Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:26:41 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1158 <p>Cate - Thanks for following up! I'm glad that your research turned up the same results that my research had done: if a two-dimensional work of art is in the public domain, then photographs of it are also in the public domain. I personally cannot believe that there's a distinction between photographs of two-dimensional works of art and photographs of three-dimensional works of art, but copyright law is a crazy thing.</p> Cate – Thanks for following up! I’m glad that your research turned up the same results that my research had done: if a two-dimensional work of art is in the public domain, then photographs of it are also in the public domain. I personally cannot believe that there’s a distinction between photographs of two-dimensional works of art and photographs of three-dimensional works of art, but copyright law is a crazy thing.

]]> By: Cate Copenhaver http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1156 Cate Copenhaver Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:35:38 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1156 <p>I dug further and I stand corrected Randy. I cannot believe that photographers images of paintings are not protected. Taking museum shots is extremely difficult. </p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Cate</p> I dug further and I stand corrected Randy. I cannot believe that photographers images of paintings are not protected. Taking museum shots is extremely difficult.

Thanks,

Cate

]]> By: Cate Copenhaver http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1155 Cate Copenhaver Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:26:27 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1155 <p>No Randy this is not the case at all. I have copied from Flickr their explanations of the various licenses. If I would have had the creative commons license then what you have done would be adequate but I do not. </p> <blockquote>[Editor: Changed to link - <a href="http://www.flickr.com/help/photos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/help/photos/</a>]</blockquote> <p>Mine is all rights reserved which is stated in my photo information. </p> <p>I have published photos in several art history books and they have all contacted me to ask permission. I do not believe this to be in the public domain. I do not allow any downloads of my photos on Flickr. There are many terrible pictures of paintings on the web. It is very difficult to get them true. I am not trying to be difficult but these are the facts. </p> <p>Thanks</p> No Randy this is not the case at all. I have copied from Flickr their explanations of the various licenses. If I would have had the creative commons license then what you have done would be adequate but I do not.

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Mine is all rights reserved which is stated in my photo information.

I have published photos in several art history books and they have all contacted me to ask permission. I do not believe this to be in the public domain. I do not allow any downloads of my photos on Flickr. There are many terrible pictures of paintings on the web. It is very difficult to get them true. I am not trying to be difficult but these are the facts.

Thanks

]]> By: Randy Hoyt http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1151 Randy Hoyt Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:11:57 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1151 <p>Cate - I'm glad you like the site! The painting by Bronzino is indeed beautiful.</p> <p>As I understand copyright law in the United States and in many other countries, mechanical reproductions (including photographs) of two-dimensional works of art do not have copyright protection: if someone takes a picture of flat art in the public domain, the flat photograph is also in the public domain. When I included this photo on the site without first requesting permission, I was not simply failing to "check the license" you used for your photo. Rather, I believed (and still believe) that your photo is in the public domain. Is that not your understanding of the applicable laws?</p> <p>But I do like your idea about notifying people if I use their public-domain photos on the site. It's not required by any kind of license or copyright law or anything, of course, but I think it would be a nice gesture. I'll be striving to do that in the future: thanks for the tip!</p> Cate – I’m glad you like the site! The painting by Bronzino is indeed beautiful.

As I understand copyright law in the United States and in many other countries, mechanical reproductions (including photographs) of two-dimensional works of art do not have copyright protection: if someone takes a picture of flat art in the public domain, the flat photograph is also in the public domain. When I included this photo on the site without first requesting permission, I was not simply failing to “check the license” you used for your photo. Rather, I believed (and still believe) that your photo is in the public domain. Is that not your understanding of the applicable laws?

But I do like your idea about notifying people if I use their public-domain photos on the site. It’s not required by any kind of license or copyright law or anything, of course, but I think it would be a nice gesture. I’ll be striving to do that in the future: thanks for the tip!

]]> By: Laura Gibbs http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1150 Laura Gibbs Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:32:59 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1150 <p>My apologies, Cate - for an academic review article of this sort, I thought that a link back to the original source for the image would be sufficient, given the academic fair use of images, especially smaller images which are linked to the full-size view of an image that is freely available for all to see elsewhere online. If you would prefer that the image be removed so that only the link to the image remains, please just say so; you certainly sound very unhappy about this, and it is no problem at all to remove the image entirely, leaving only the link to the image which you published online. If that would make you happy, please say so!</p> My apologies, Cate – for an academic review article of this sort, I thought that a link back to the original source for the image would be sufficient, given the academic fair use of images, especially smaller images which are linked to the full-size view of an image that is freely available for all to see elsewhere online. If you would prefer that the image be removed so that only the link to the image remains, please just say so; you certainly sound very unhappy about this, and it is no problem at all to remove the image entirely, leaving only the link to the image which you published online. If that would make you happy, please say so!

]]> By: Cate Copenhaver http://journeytothesea.com/harrowing-of-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-1145 Cate Copenhaver Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:20:52 +0000 http://journeytothesea.com/?p=2964#comment-1145 <p>Hello,</p> <p>You have used my picture from Flickr, the beautiful painting by Bronzino for this online magazine, which I like by the way without getting my permission. All rights on my work are reserved. I should have been notified first. You can leave it now but you should check the licenses people use for their photos.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Cate</p> Hello,

You have used my picture from Flickr, the beautiful painting by Bronzino for this online magazine, which I like by the way without getting my permission. All rights on my work are reserved. I should have been notified first. You can leave it now but you should check the licenses people use for their photos.

Thanks,

Cate

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